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腾讯混元Hy4 Sol模型实测：防御性编程倾向引发讨论

腾讯混元Hy4 preview发布后，实测体验显示Sol模型在迁移磁盘文件时逐文件计算并核对哈希值，被独立开发者William称为防御性编程特征明显。William称该过程耗时过长，他选择中断；向阳乔木引用腾讯官方公众号内容，称模型通过与内部软工、游戏、金融、安全等领域专家共建数据，在真实生产力任务上取得进步。候选推文均为官方转述和个人实测，尚无独立基准测试结果，讨论重点是真实任务表现和人与AI协作时的控制问题。有观点认为谨慎行为在数据完整性场景中有价值，但暴露了效率与用户意图理解上的不足。

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向阳乔木@vista8
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读了腾讯 Hy preview的官方公众号。 最打动我的是这一句： “通过与腾讯内部软工、游戏、金融、安全等领域顶尖专家的高质量数据共建，Hy4 preview 在各类真实生产力任务上取得显著进步。” 让我想梁文峰的投资人讲话录音，提到 DeepSeek团队的研究员大部分时间都在标数据。 专家高质量数据，非常影响模型表现。 如果模型厂商算法傲慢，只重视算法，不重视数据，进步就不会快。 还是得把手弄脏，把数据搞好。 https://t.co/4sefenm4RJ
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underwood@underwoodxie96
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WOW！ Prompt：https://t.co/R4NpiapbP8 Ultra-realistic indoor mirror selfie photography, seated on a carpet, vertical composition approximately 4:5. A young adult East Asian woman sits on a light gray, short-pile carpet, holding a smartphone in front of her face so that most of it is obscured. Use a low camera position close to floor level. Place the subject slightly right of center, occupying approximately 78–82% of the image height. The camera should appear about 1.3–1.8 meters away, with an equivalent focal length of roughly 35–50mm to avoid exaggerated wide-angle distortion. Frame her entire body from the top of her head to the tips of her shoes. Her body is turned approximately 70–80° sideways to the camera, with her lower body extending horizontally across the floor. The background is a minimalist gray-and-white modern residential hallway. No fisheye effect and no strong background blur. The subject must have a very clearly defined, full hourglass/pear-shaped adult female figure. This is the highest priority. She has a medium-to-small frame, moderately narrow shoulders, and a noticeably full upper body, with a large bust that shows natural weight and gravity. Her torso narrows rapidly beneath the bust into a distinctly slender waist, while her abdomen is flat but softly natural. Her pelvis is extremely wide, with the hips visibly expanding outward on both sides. Her buttocks are exceptionally full, thick, and rounded, and her upper thighs are thick and soft. The overall visual emphasis should be: narrow shoulders + full upper body + extremely narrow waist + very wide hips + exceptionally large, rounded buttocks + substantial thighs. However, everything must remain consistent with realistic pelvic anatomy, soft-tissue compression, and gravity. Avoid a muscular fitness-model butt, unnaturally spherical buttocks, or a slender fashion-model body. Use a low, side-seated pose similar to the reference-image style. Her buttocks rest fully on the carpet as she sits laterally toward her left. Her pelvis is rotated distinctly toward the camera, making the hip, buttock, and thigh closest to the camera the most prominent contours in the image. One leg is bent deeply in front of her body and extends diagonally toward the lower-left corner of the frame. The lower leg angles forward, with the foot planted or the shoe sole lightly touching the carpet. The other leg folds behind her body, with the knee close to the floor, creating visible compression between the thigh and buttock. The seated pose must produce realistic spreading and compression of the soft tissue in the thighs and buttocks; the legs and hips must not look stiff as though she were standing. Her upper body remains fairly upright but leans slightly backward. The waist is strongly drawn inward, producing a very pronounced waist-to-hip curve. Her shoulders rotate slightly toward her left, while her head and phone turn toward the mirror. With her right hand, she holds a black smartphone vertically at approximately eye level, covering the center and upper portion of her face. Her fingers wrap naturally around the side of the phone. The face-obscuring phone is an essential feature—do not create a front-facing selfie with her face visible. She has extremely long, straight, jet-black hair reaching her waist or lower. Her hair is dense and smooth, lying close to her back, with naturally tapered ends. Use a near-center part or a subtle off-center part, with no obvious curls. Most of the hair falls from the back of her head down her back and waist, with a few loose strands resting naturally around her shoulders and neck. No short hair, curls, bun, or high ponytail. She wears a tight-fitting black-and-cream long-sleeved top or mini-dress-style bodysuit. The main body is made from fitted black stretch fabric, with black structured detailing over the bust, while the sleeves are solid cream or ivory white, creating a strong black-and-white contrast. The neckline is relatively low, and the black bodice closely follows her full bust and narrow waist. The garment continues below the waist into an extremely short black skirt or hem positioned above and around the hips. Because of the seated pose, the fabric naturally spreads backward, with a clearly visible section of black fabric draping onto the carpet behind her on the right side. On her legs, she wears white or very pale cream, ultra-sheer thigh-high stockings. The stocking tops sit high on the thighs. The material should resemble approximately 10–20 denier hosiery, with clearly visible translucency and the natural skin tone showing through. The stocking on the leg closest to the camera should retain a soft, milky-white appearance. The bands should be narrow and delicate. No thick cotton socks and no black stockings. She wears glossy black patent-leather pointed-toe stiletto pumps with intense mirror-like reflections. The toes are extremely pointed, and the slender heels are approximately 9–11 cm high. The shoe closest to the camera is positioned in the lower-left foreground, with its pointed toe directed sideways toward the left. The other shoe is located below and in front of her body, with the toe pointing toward the camera and the slender heel clearly visible. Both shoes must be the same style of black patent-leather pointed-toe stiletto pump. No ankle boots, platforms, or chunky heels. Her overall proportions should closely match the reference-image style: a relatively short torso, high waistline, wide pelvis, and exceptionally full upper thighs. In the side-seated position, the buttocks should visibly project backward and outward, while the thigh closest to the camera should have substantial visual width. Do not make her look like a fashion model with excessively long legs, small hips, a small butt, or broad shoulders. The setting is a minimalist modern residence or apartment hallway just outside a bedroom. The floor is fully covered by a light gray, short-pile carpet with a fine, soft texture. The background walls are cool gray-white. In the left rear of the image, include a white interior door and doorframe, with simple rectangular panel detailing. Farther back, another pale gray-white door and a short section of hallway are visible. In the upper-right area of the wall, include a small black wall sconce or candle-style wall light, only partially visible. The space should be minimal, clean, and almost completely free of furniture. A very small white decorative symbol may appear on the wall behind her, near the right side of the phone—for example, simple characters such as “^_^ <3.” It must be tiny, close to white in color, and only a subtle decorative detail rather than a visual focal point. If the model cannot generate the text reliably, omit it. Use soft indoor natural light or broad diffused lighting, with no obvious flash. The overall exposure should be slightly gray and low in saturation. The pale gray walls and carpet should appear bright and soft, while the black clothing and black hair create strong contrast. Her skin tone is naturally warm and fair, with very soft shadows. Avoid harsh lighting and a commercial studio look. The overall result should resemble a realistic, high-quality social-media mirror selfie or portrait, with subtle smartphone HDR and natural sharpening. Fine details should remain visible in the carpet fibers, black fabric, white sleeves, translucent stockings, reflective patent-leather shoes, and long hair. Use a soft gray tone and slightly low contrast, with no cinematic filter. Key elements to lock in: low side-seated pose on a light gray carpet + phone obscuring the face + extremely long, straight black hair + very full upper body + extremely narrow waist + extremely wide hips + exceptionally large, rounded buttocks + thick thighs + black main garment with contrasting white long sleeves + extremely short black skirt hem spread behind her + white sheer thigh-high stockings + glossy black pointed-toe stiletto pumps + white door on the left + minimalist gray-and-white residential background + soft, low-saturation indoor lighting. Avoid: standing poses, kneeling, cross-legged sitting, front-facing seated poses, high camera angles, excessive shooting distance, a subject who appears too small in the frame, visible-face selfies, short hair, curly hair, thick blunt bangs, an ordinarily slender figure, narrow hips, flat buttocks, thin thighs, muscular fitness-model buttocks, insufficient waist-to-hip contrast, black trousers, pleated skirts, jeans, black stockings, white cotton socks, sneakers, ankle boots, platform heels, complex backgrounds, excessive furniture, a bed dominating the scene, harsh flash, nighttime scenes, or fisheye distortion.
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ahhhhfs@abskoop
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月底报销还在一封封翻邮箱、下附件、改文件名、填 Excel？ 可以试试这款 开源发票自动整理工具 InvoiceFlowAI： 👉https://t.co/yuVZP2fUcS -从 QQ / 163 批量收 PDF、OFD、XML，部分只有下载链接的发票也能自动拉下来 - OCR 识别金额、日期、票号，按类型归档 -住宿发票配水单、打车票配行程单 -自动归档到本地，并生成 Excel 汇总表 -支持 Windows 和 macOS（Apple Silicon）桌面版 比较适合发票多、每月都要重复整理报销材料的个人、自由职业者和小团队。
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Berryxia.AI@berryxia
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卧槽，腾讯把旗舰开源盘到 770B 了，激活还是 49B。 @TencentHunyuan 今天丢出 Hy4 preview。770B 总参，49B 激活，1M 上下文，权重上了 Hugging Face。 官方原话：为生产力而做，开源前沿，价格保持便宜。让你用，然后你用到崩的BUG告诉他们哈哈 缓存输入 $0.042、输入 $0.834、输出 $2.501 / 百万 Token。 上代 Hy3 国内价还是 1 块进、4 块出。同一条产品线，旗舰这一跳不便宜。 更像是把混元从元宝插件里拽出来，按 DeepSeek 那套激活数重新排队。 DeepSeek V4 Pro 也是 49B 激活，但总盘 1.6T。Hy4 总盘只有它一半不到，激活对齐，上下文也拉到 1M。 但这次最值得看的，可能还不是跑分。 官方拿 163 个内部专家，盲评 203 道工程题。对 GLM 5.3 是 46.8% 胜、12.8% 平、40.4% 负；对 Kimi K3 是 51.2% 胜、7.9% 平、40.9% 负。平均分 2.99 对 2.92、2.94。 da是自己的工程题，不是公开榜。开源出来，就是让外面去砸。 自家尺子小胜两家，外面的办公和编程流量会不会跟过去？ https://t.co/TN6YkcLEHh https://t.co/vl64VHQ70j **直接复制发推即可**@TencentHunyuan 今天丢出 Hy4 preview。770B 总参，49B 激活，1M 上下文，权重上了 Hugging Face。 官方原话：为生产力而做，开源前沿，价格保持便宜。让你用，告诉他们哪会崩。 缓存输入 $0.042、输入 $0.834、输出 $2.501 / 百万 Token。 上代 Hy3 国内价还是 1 块进、4 块出。同一条产品线，旗舰这一跳不便宜。 更像是把混元从元宝插件里拽出来，按 DeepSeek 那套激活数重新排队。 DeepSeek V4 Pro 也是 49B 激活，但总盘 1.6T。 Hy4 总盘只有它一半不到，激活对齐，上下文也拉到 1M。 但这次最值得看的，可能还不是跑分。 官方拿 163 个内部专家，盲评 203 道工程题。 对 GLM 5.3 是 46.8% 胜、12.8% 平、40.4% 负； 对 Kimi K3 是 51.2% 胜、7.9% 平、40.9% 负。 平均分 2.99 对 2.92、2.94。 但是测评是自己的工程题，不是公开榜。 https://t.co/vl64VHQ70j
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WEEX AI Labs@WEEXAILabs
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腾讯终于发布Hy4：770B参数，发布即开源！ 新一代旗舰模型Hy4 preview总参数770B，每个Token激活49B，支持1M上下文，并以Apache 2.0协议开放模型权重。 这次腾讯没有只卷参数，而是把重点放在真实生产力上： 🔹长程编程、调试与验证 🔹跨文件分析，生成文档、表格和PPT 🔹一句话生成可玩的游戏原型 🔹科研推理与工具调用 官方评测中，Hy4在Terminal-Bench 2.1拿到85.4，DeepSWE从Hy3的28.0提升至64.3。腾讯内部163名专家进行的203项工程任务盲测中，综合表现也略高于GLM-5.3和Kimi K3。 不过以上成绩目前主要来自官方，仍需等待第三方实测。 最有意思的是，腾讯主动承认它存在两个问题：复杂任务有时想得太久，还喜欢过度验证自己的工作。 熟悉的改几行代码，非要顺手写十个测试症状又来了，看来Hy4也有一点GPT-5.6 Sol同款童年创伤😂 目前模型权重已上线Hugging Face和GitHub，API也已接入腾讯云TokenHub与OpenRouter。 你们最想拿Hy4测试什么？评论区聊聊⬇️ #AI #Tencent #Hy4 #LLM #OpenSource #Agent
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改张照片还要花钱订阅AI工具？大可不必。 给你安利一个白嫖神器——Upscayl，GitHub上已经48000多颗星，不是小众玩意。它牛在哪，我给你捋清楚： 1️⃣ 不用上传到任何网站，照片全程在你自己的电脑里跑，隐私不外泄 2️⃣ 不用订阅，不用月付，一分钱不掏 3️⃣ 开源，谁都能查它到底干了啥 搞设计、做内容、天天跟图片打交道的，赶紧收藏，能省不少钱。 🔗 https://t.co/1syND5O579
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